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Narugrim
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sam tolkien je za nešto napisao
it will be enigma forever,just like tom bombadil
nije doslovno ovako,nešto slično uglavnom8)
ja mislim da je on Ulmo 
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Ravion
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Mrmlj... Hocu da netko konacno posegne za knjigom osim mene... Na dobrom si putu narugrim, ali nije Ulmo... Na dobrom si putu s onim prvim dijelom posta...
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Narugrim
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vidi...u jednoj recenici u silmarilionu kad se konacno oblikovao beleriand pisalo je da je od svih valara jedino Ulmo nastavio posjeivat ljude u raznim oblicima.
samo jedna pretpostavka...jednako stoji o sve ostale jer nijedna nema baš pravi temelj.
Iluvatar himself?
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Ravion
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Ima drito jedan quote u jednoj knjizi... 
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Elennor
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ja sam nasla ovo:
"I do not mean him to be an allegory - or I should not have given him so particular, individual, and ridiculous a name - but 'allegory' is the only mode of exhibiting certain functions: he is then an 'allegory', or an exemplar, a particular embodying of pure (real) natural science: the spirit that desires knowledge of other things, their history and nature, because they are 'other' and wholly independent of the enquiring mind, a spirit coeval with the rational mind, and entirely unconcerned with 'doing' anything with the knowledge: Zoology and Botany not Cattle-breeding or Agriculture ."(letter #153)
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Ravion
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Svaka cast! Napokon! Dakle, on je 'alegorija'. 
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Elennor
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valjda... samo sto mi to bas nije logicno s obzirom da Tolkien nije volio alegoriju sto je i posebno naglasio u predgovoru LotR-a
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Matija
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Ja imam jedno pitanje; u 1.knjizi LOTR-a se pojavljuje vilenjak Glorfindel koji je ujedno imao i neke super moči kojima je poplašio Nazgule ali se isto tako u Silimarilionu pojavljuje neki vilenjak s istim imenom ali on pogiba u boju s Barlozima mnogo prije događaja u LOTR-u. Može li mi to netko pojasnit?  :
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Elennor
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ima nekoliko teorija, od toga da su to 2 razlicita vilenjaka do toga da je Glorfindel iz 1. doba reinkarniran i poslan natrag u ME sa Istarima
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